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ECIFD & Jonesville Fire get County money for renting to CRH. With Kickbacks!

Source: Email 12/11/11 Posted: 14.Dec, 2011 08:27:00 | Last Accessed: 2013-05-21 12:13:04 |

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Tagged: CRH, Taxes, Columbus Regional Health, Ambulance Service, Jonesville Fire Department, ECIFD, Rodney Ferrenburg, Dirk Hinton, Commissioners, Larry K, Patients, Kick Backs, County Money, crooked, Repp Drive, Progress Drive

CRH pays rent for service tax payer pays, double fees, same service...

I think what the public is not aware of is Jonesville Fire Department(Rodney Ferrenburg's buddy Chief Dirk Hinton’s kingdom) is getting a chunk the county’s cash through this county funding because his department leases to CRH...

I bet they also don't know that East Columbus Fire Department(Rodney Ferrenburg’s kingdom) is getting a kick back as well by having two fire stations also taking the county's money because they have contracts for an ambulance at each fire station they own. (Repp Drive and Progress Drive).

Why?

I think the taxpayer has to wonder if they are paying twice for the same services.

We are paying CRH for ambulance service. They are paying our fire stations for a place to park.

Think it over a bit...

Look at a crooked operation like the "private" secret business of ECIFD.... They are taking in all that money from CRH from for ‘rent money’ which comes from our tax dollars but where is it going?

Does it go to make building payments on the property? Perhaps, but even so....

Why are the taxpayers paying fire taxes and then paying county taxes to pay for rent money to park an ambulance in a station that they already own--

Hmmmm

I think the Commissioners probably have found a rat.

They just need a trap.

A BIG TRAP!

And how can CRH be losing money when they get $920,000 per year, plus insurance money from the patients?

A well managed service could afford to do it for us for ONLY what the patients’ insurance pays.

They could provide a better service and cost the city and county nothing.

Think it over a bit…..

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Comments (14 posted)

Fireguy 15/12/2011 15:56:06

Umm I'm pretty sure this has been public knowledge since CRH took over providing coverage for the county.

Those buildings aren't owned by the county so they should not be forced to house an ambulance that is, for free.

Just look at these rental payments as supporting both fire department's budgets causing the township fire taxes to be lower then the would without the payments.

Admin 15/12/2011 19:14:45

Please provide those rental agreements Fireguy. Thanks

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Fireguy 16/12/2011 17:15:38

I'm on neither departments nor do I live in either townships so I dont have access to them. I fail to see how me providing them would benefit anything though.

Fireguy 15/12/2011 15:57:50

you're right though. Plenty of private ambulance services prove its a profitable business. If it wasnt profitable there would be not private services. There's no reason for them to be losing money.

Ramey 18/12/2011 05:36:12

Private ambulance services make a very nice profit due to 95%+ of their patients are on Medicare/Medicaid or are at least insured in some way. However, 911 doesn't pay well at all since a very large portion of the patients either don't have insurance or just don't pay the bill. That's exactly how CRH loses money in the 911 service.

Does no one remember the bids from all of the other EMS providers before CRH was awarded the contract? CRH came in and offered twice the service at a portion of the cost of the lowest bidder.

I know the scoup 19/12/2011 17:10:19

In today's paper Jim Bickel said...

The hospital constantly looks for ways to cut costs without sacrificing quality of care, Bickel said.

For instance, the hospital saved about $75,000 by retrofitting an older ambulance chassis rather than buying a new vehicle, Bickel said.

Money also has been saved through more careful scheduling of ambulance crews.

Then let's ask this - In 2006 1.5 million was spent to build the ECIFD less than 2 miles from the 27th and Central Ave; so why does the hospital pay $94,000 a year for both ambulances to be kept there. The excuse, it pays for the Progress Dr. building payment - which is a fluff to all the tax payers.

It's amazing how this has been unnoticed for such a long time, they shouldn't get away with it anymore!

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Paula Jarrett 19/12/2011 20:26:09

I know the Scoup...the place on Progress is NOT fluff for those who live in northern Ba. Co. Think of the time saved when they are dispatched to a most northern neighborhood vs the one on Central. If you know the scoup, then you know how crucial it is to get a medic up here as quickly as they can. If I had to rely on the Central Ave location, my husband might have died, given the need for oxygen. I can do CPR quite well, but you need oxygen, right?? I'm glad I didn't have to wait for the time it would have taken the Central site to get to where we live. You need to think of those in northern Ba Co, and not just the city...Thank goodness for the Progress Dr. site.....it's not fluff to me at all. I credit them for saving my husband's life.

Ramey 19/12/2011 18:05:31

so why does the hospital pay $94,000 a year for both ambulances to be kept there?

You think that the hospital pays someone $94,000/yr for rent? Do you hear what you're saying?

Paula Jarrett 19/12/2011 20:20:20

For those in northern Ba County, we need that location on Progress Drive. Time is of the essence when someone is in cardiac arrest. I am most grateful for the location on Progress Dr. I hate to think the minutes added if an amb was dispatched from Central Ave. to our house. I can do CPR, and thankfully the sheriffs have AED's in their cars, but you need to give oxygen, and those precious five minutes can make a difference in life and death.
We NEED that site on Progess Dr.

Admin 19/12/2011 22:06:02

You're missing the point Paula,

The site the ambulances sit at is important - no one is questioning that.

What I think they are saying is the money being paid to the ECIFD shouldn't be paid since both are owned by the county.

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Olden 20/12/2011 09:20:52

Site is not owned by the County. It is owned by the FD.

Not pretending I know how FD work, since it appears EC and German FD own their own stations, but Clay and Jonesville are owned by the townships, but none are owned by the County. I am sure it is all about the seperation of the diffent levels of govenment. East Columbus FD and Columbus Township is seperate from the County and is under no obligation to provide their space rent free.

Now if Daniels gets his way and they get rid of Township goventments, that may be a different story, but still not sure how that would affect indepentant fire departments.

Paula Jarrett 20/12/2011 21:38:34

Olden, German Township owns the building, not German township FD, the trustee's office is also housed in the same building.

Paula Jarrett 19/12/2011 23:18:50

I understand that, but it came across as the site at Progress wasn't needed...at least that's how I understood it....aren't those places, ECIFD and the sites at Central and Progress drive in the city??? If the place is the second site for ECIFD, that title is very deceiving as Progress is not on the east side....what happened to when all our services were in our taxes??? Didn't that work??

Kyle 20/12/2011 20:55:57

Ramey, you made my point before I got to it. Does no one think that there isn't much money in providing 911 service? If someone doesn't have insurance they are still transported. For a private service taking direct calls from lets say nursing homes, they can refuse to transport people who do not have insurance. And most patients requiring non emergent transfers do have medicad or medicare that pay for the transport so the ambulance service is getting back 100%. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip, if a 911 based service such as CRH transports someone that does not have insurance and no way to pay the bill they have to eat that cost. They also have operating costs such as being called out for fire standbys and police standbys where they don't transport. That is a service they provide which is an operating cost of man hours and fuel where they don't directly bill someone it comes out of the money provided by the city. People don't seem to understand what all goes into operating an ambulance service, I'm not saying I'm an expert either but I do know that CRH is charging less than the $1 million dollars the tax payers where forking out for CFD to have an ambulance.

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